WEBVTT 00:05.840 --> 00:09.840 yeah I've been with the L . 00:09.840 --> 00:13.510 A . For 33 years and 00:13.520 --> 00:17.370 uh I was on campus 00:17.370 --> 00:20.880 up at Weber State University here in 00:20.880 --> 00:23.900 the ogden area and saw a job 00:23.910 --> 00:27.050 application for an internship 00:27.140 --> 00:30.660 uh which I was studying logistics and 00:30.670 --> 00:34.140 uh was it defense depot ogden And 00:34.140 --> 00:37.050 uh it was for procurement and it was a 00:37.060 --> 00:39.300 internship while you went to school . 00:39.310 --> 00:42.110 And so I hired in as a GS four 00:42.120 --> 00:46.100 uh internist or stay in school program 00:46.110 --> 00:48.610 and uh I worked 20 hours a week and 00:48.610 --> 00:51.400 went to school and uh that's where it 00:51.400 --> 00:55.330 all began . It's 00:55.330 --> 00:57.500 been a long time . But from what I 00:57.500 --> 00:59.740 remember yes they were kind of separate 00:59.740 --> 01:02.860 buildings . Some of them were a little 01:02.860 --> 01:06.790 bit like warehouses but uh for the most 01:06.790 --> 01:08.901 part you know you just have different 01:08.901 --> 01:10.734 parts of the L . A . And they're 01:10.734 --> 01:13.520 different buildings and uh and uh I 01:13.520 --> 01:15.187 just remembered for us on the 01:15.187 --> 01:19.010 transportation side we were over uh 01:19.020 --> 01:21.131 you know in our own little area . And 01:21.131 --> 01:24.660 uh and and again it was 01:24.660 --> 01:27.940 very engaged , you know as far as it's 01:27.940 --> 01:29.496 very different from today , 01:31.640 --> 01:35.080 Dss is deployed at all depots across D . 01:35.080 --> 01:37.750 L . A . Right now soon to be replaced 01:37.750 --> 01:40.780 by W . M . S . As we go forward . But 01:40.790 --> 01:43.370 when I hired on we were using a system 01:43.370 --> 01:47.120 called the Wasp and uh and D . 01:47.120 --> 01:50.460 Was was a fun little system that 01:50.460 --> 01:53.410 ran the depots that deal I had at that 01:53.410 --> 01:55.870 time including Memphis and defense 01:55.870 --> 01:58.210 Depot ogden couple that are gone now of 01:58.210 --> 02:02.150 course and uh as part of I think it was 02:02.150 --> 02:04.840 called D . M . R . D . 902 . Something 02:04.840 --> 02:07.240 like that it consolidated took all the 02:07.240 --> 02:09.351 warehousing from all the services and 02:09.351 --> 02:11.351 gave that to D . L . A . And at the 02:11.351 --> 02:13.240 same time charge D . L . A . With 02:13.240 --> 02:15.410 implementing a standard system across 02:15.420 --> 02:18.450 all of the various uh 02:18.940 --> 02:21.750 services , warehouse components . And 02:21.750 --> 02:24.580 so so not only did D . L . A . Takeover 02:24.580 --> 02:26.580 the warehousing of all these places 02:26.580 --> 02:28.691 like Hill Air Force Base where I'm at 02:28.691 --> 02:31.420 now . Um and several army depots and 02:31.430 --> 02:34.870 and marine and navy and so forth . Uh 02:34.880 --> 02:36.769 But also we had to come up with a 02:36.769 --> 02:39.060 standard system . And so we were of 02:39.060 --> 02:42.650 course partial to D . Was but a 02:42.660 --> 02:45.360 program office was formed to uh jim 02:45.360 --> 02:48.970 Sanchez headed up back then from from 02:48.980 --> 02:52.140 uh Virginia there . I can't remember if 02:52.140 --> 02:54.307 it was Cameron station of Fort Belvoir 02:54.307 --> 02:56.770 when that transition was made . And uh 02:56.770 --> 03:00.390 and we fell under that and uh but we 03:00.390 --> 03:02.550 chose the army system 03:02.940 --> 03:06.930 uh and and decided I believe it was 03:06.930 --> 03:09.160 called A O . D . Mod but I might be 03:09.170 --> 03:11.392 mistaken but we chose that system to be 03:11.392 --> 03:13.559 the standard system . And then we took 03:13.559 --> 03:15.726 that over in the L . A . Plus a lot of 03:15.726 --> 03:17.892 their programming resources And that's 03:17.892 --> 03:20.059 how the new Cumberland group came into 03:20.059 --> 03:22.170 the into the point because up to that 03:22.170 --> 03:25.090 point the people that uh Defense Depot 03:25.090 --> 03:28.420 ogden uh we're uh the I . T . People 03:28.420 --> 03:32.150 were the main soul people uh developing 03:32.150 --> 03:34.600 I . T . For for distribution across D . 03:34.600 --> 03:36.680 L . A . And when the army system has 03:36.680 --> 03:38.791 chose we took a large chunk of people 03:38.791 --> 03:41.360 and brought them in modified A . O . A . 03:41.360 --> 03:44.070 O . D . Mod together between the folks 03:44.070 --> 03:46.014 here in Utah and the people in new 03:46.014 --> 03:48.320 Cumberland . And uh and then deployed 03:48.320 --> 03:51.180 that across the world . And it was it 03:51.180 --> 03:53.124 was tough because not only were we 03:53.124 --> 03:55.900 deploying a system but we're also uh 03:55.910 --> 03:57.966 you know changing the way that depot 03:57.966 --> 03:59.966 did things according to how the air 03:59.966 --> 04:02.299 Force liked it . And so it was a battle . 04:02.299 --> 04:04.770 It was a very very tough sell 04:04.770 --> 04:07.580 politically and and technology wise to 04:07.590 --> 04:09.830 to come in as D . L . A . And bring our 04:09.830 --> 04:12.790 own system . And and take uh have the 04:12.790 --> 04:14.846 people start working for D . L . A . 04:14.846 --> 04:17.179 And have them start using A . D . L . A . 04:17.179 --> 04:20.420 Developed system . And uh but it 04:20.420 --> 04:23.040 accomplished what we were what we had 04:23.040 --> 04:25.151 to do . We had to change the system a 04:25.151 --> 04:26.818 little bit too to accommodate 04:26.818 --> 04:28.960 uniqueness at the various depots so 04:28.960 --> 04:31.370 that you know acceptability was was 04:31.370 --> 04:33.259 brought in . That's why dss isn't 04:33.259 --> 04:35.710 exactly a standard as people might hope 04:35.710 --> 04:37.654 it would be . But it was mostly to 04:37.654 --> 04:41.540 accommodate um the cell of being 04:41.540 --> 04:43.707 able to take care of these depots that 04:43.707 --> 04:45.762 D . L . A . Took over at that time . 04:48.440 --> 04:50.551 I brought some some things that I had 04:50.551 --> 04:53.840 saved over the years with me here and 04:53.850 --> 04:56.480 everything was paperback . You know in 04:56.490 --> 04:58.900 in the late 80s and 90s . As you can 04:58.900 --> 05:02.630 see this is a print out of a 05:02.640 --> 05:05.300 batch job that was run . And then we 05:05.300 --> 05:07.244 eventually went to smaller paper , 05:07.244 --> 05:10.460 right ? Um but we just printed 05:10.470 --> 05:13.190 gobs of you know paper and the programs 05:13.190 --> 05:15.190 that people wrote in the early days 05:15.190 --> 05:17.412 they would keep a paper copy of that on 05:17.412 --> 05:19.523 their desk . And so if they needed to 05:19.523 --> 05:21.746 debug it they would go through you know 05:21.746 --> 05:23.912 a couple inches thick of a paper to do 05:23.912 --> 05:26.023 that when a batch job ran . Which you 05:26.023 --> 05:28.870 really hardly hear of any more . Um You 05:28.870 --> 05:32.170 know it spit out just just a ton of of 05:32.180 --> 05:34.990 of a data like you saw there and it's 05:34.990 --> 05:38.580 all gone right ? Um Also 05:38.590 --> 05:41.720 uh you know I have my we communicated 05:41.730 --> 05:43.841 you know through publications and not 05:43.841 --> 05:45.897 not so much the internet , here's my 05:45.897 --> 05:48.500 dimensions the 40th anniversary of D . 05:48.500 --> 05:50.667 L . A . And here we're celebrating the 05:50.667 --> 05:52.667 60th anniversary but we all got you 05:52.667 --> 05:56.520 know our copy of this and and uh it was 05:56.530 --> 05:58.752 it was kind of fun but that you know we 05:58.752 --> 06:00.863 just communicated through paper . Now 06:00.863 --> 06:03.030 now we we hardly use any paper right ? 06:03.030 --> 06:05.252 We signed everything you know by hand . 06:05.252 --> 06:07.770 Now we signed everything you know uh 06:07.780 --> 06:10.720 through a digital signature . Some of 06:10.720 --> 06:12.720 the other things that changed , you 06:12.720 --> 06:16.230 know the old computer systems . Um you 06:16.230 --> 06:18.710 know they used reels uh magnetic 06:18.720 --> 06:20.750 grilles and and then you know in my 06:20.750 --> 06:23.590 time we were still using floppy disks 06:23.600 --> 06:26.740 uh to to to plug in the computer which 06:26.740 --> 06:29.600 then went to a a little bit harder uh 06:29.610 --> 06:32.820 floppy disks . The 3.5 inch you know 06:32.820 --> 06:34.987 until we just we don't really need any 06:34.987 --> 06:37.410 of that . We have some USPS but but 06:37.410 --> 06:39.466 also just to give you an idea when I 06:39.466 --> 06:41.630 hired on somebody , I think his name 06:41.630 --> 06:44.810 was Bill Young Out of Columbus . He was 06:44.810 --> 06:47.930 one of the original people that was 06:47.930 --> 06:51.140 part of delays formation of their IT 06:51.150 --> 06:53.240 back in 64 . And he wrote an article 06:53.250 --> 06:57.080 the year I hired on and he said that um 06:57.090 --> 06:59.950 you know that they're the computer that 06:59.950 --> 07:02.130 was running so in the beginning of D . 07:02.130 --> 07:05.130 L . A . It was you know it was so small 07:05.130 --> 07:08.550 it was had a meg of memory and and and 07:08.550 --> 07:11.800 maybe 25 megs of hard space you know 07:11.800 --> 07:15.720 that they used but when I hired on um 07:15.730 --> 07:19.420 they had a computer that the main 07:19.420 --> 07:23.010 computer that delay was running at 128 07:23.020 --> 07:26.470 megs of memory on it . And if you 07:26.470 --> 07:28.137 combine that with three other 07:28.137 --> 07:30.330 mainframes and five other ghouls they 07:30.330 --> 07:33.540 were called . Then you got a a total 07:33.550 --> 07:36.120 disk space or hard drive space or 07:36.120 --> 07:38.430 whatever you wanna call it . You know I 07:38.430 --> 07:40.263 mean these are massive computers 07:40.263 --> 07:42.660 running in a in a huge computer room 07:42.670 --> 07:46.220 and you've got 1.8 gig is what he said 07:46.220 --> 07:48.520 all those added up together provided a 07:48.520 --> 07:51.740 storage space of 1.8 gig . 07:51.750 --> 07:55.310 So so you've got 100 and 25 meg memory 07:55.310 --> 07:58.500 and and 1.8 gig of space in this huge 07:58.500 --> 08:00.500 computer room , you know , with all 08:00.500 --> 08:02.444 these computers running and in our 08:02.444 --> 08:04.730 iphones we carry in our pockets are 08:04.740 --> 08:06.740 exponentially bigger that we're all 08:06.740 --> 08:08.907 carrying , you know , in our pockets , 08:08.907 --> 08:11.129 something massively bigger than the L . 08:11.129 --> 08:13.184 A . Was using when I hired on to run 08:13.184 --> 08:16.260 the computing power for for for , you 08:16.260 --> 08:18.482 know , all of our information systems . 08:18.482 --> 08:21.490 So that's a change , right ? That's 08:21.490 --> 08:22.960 that's a big change .